We’ll never remove the prejudices of people against Chinese scooters. Almost everyone wants a tail case, a cell phone holder, and the means to charge said cell phone so show show the difficulties in finding the means to mount everything. For laughs I also ordered the matching Honda CN 250 shaft. I will tell you this. 4) I recommend them, have been riding for 52 years and am the son of an old Triumph dealer. Plus if you buy ANYTHING used you get no guarantees that it doesn’t have an expensive problem underneath. Every china-scoot owner I know–and I know many–have had problem after problem. Their designs, tried and true, will be replicated in China (or elsewhere), using inferior quality products, materials, and production techniques, to make a … Mine has 8,000 miles, runs just fine and will continue to run just as well as any Italian, ancient, pressed steel overpriced scooter. Playground caretaker, 76, is caught riding a toy scooter on a Chinese road as she is 'unable to walk home due to leg pain' An elderly woman in Suzhou was spotted with her eye-catching ride on a road This article could have been written about Hyundai 30 years ago or Kia 18 years ago or Honda 45 years ago. / dba ezscootsho's board "Chinese Scooters" on Pinterest. If you have to have a scooter and can’t fix it, you spend the money. 2) Every smart person here in the states has heard of www,scrappydogscooters.com , http://www.partsforscooters.com , http://www.scooterbelts.com and many other firms that sell Chinese parts at reasonable prices. Is it crap? I think you should get a part time job at a Vespa dealership and let me know how you find the owners and their vehicle issues. Go to Youtube and look up Acworthpatrick. Call your local DMV. Motorcycle helmets are trendy items that reflect your personality. So far the only reason that I’ve needed the shop has been for flat tires. For people who know what “Normal” riding is that is perfectly true. Designing was very competitive, and, through hot-rodding, engines and horsepower increased dramatically. Buy Japanese if need a dealer. The Chinese scooter scene is by far the most confusing of all. Chinese scooters cost just what all scooters should cost-not much. I haven’t even adjusted the chain yet and as you can see by the comments I’m not alone. Because I rode a Lexmoto, I had to keep on searching. Whenever I hear the “Junk” or “Crap” in reference to a scooter I get nutty. Pop the hood on my Ford Escape and my eyes cross though :). It’s the scooters fault. Ultimately though, I couldn't justify keeping the scooter. Guess how many problems I had with my first scooter? Venus Scooter 2 or 4 Stroke Floorboard 49.5cc - 50cc Chinese Scooter … The chinese language has X amount of words but nothing for quality control or maybe they do, I don’t know, I needed to write an article for this website but I procrastinated and put this together in 20 minutes before my deadline and figured I would just write something rife with prejudices against chinese manufacturing…. Had it been a Suzuki or a Honda, I could have gotten a key cut anywhere. This is my experience owning a Chinese-manufactured scooter: the Lexmoto Valencia 125cc. Chinese scooters are junk and Italian scooters are nice, but expensive. They’re not ceramic lined, V VTI or fuel injected. prior to purchasing any motorcycle or scooter, http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic130381.2, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLjSkjiliA. I have three of the good ones. Learn the different signs of a bad alternator to make a faster diagnosis. You can get ticketed if caught driving without it. This post reads more like a warning to get a clue about what you are doing and how to handle a scooter before you buy one than it does about the quality of Chinese scooters. I neglected to for a couple of weeks and the English weather proceeded to tarnish the headlight housing with rust. It wasn’t until the Gold Wing in 1975 that the “Jap Crap” comments abated. I got my Chinese scooter online because of the “Hope Diamond” prices people are asking for Antique (any two wheeler over 25 years old) brand name scooters. If I had that much money I’d buy a real bike like a Ninja 300. Nice to ride, too. Front Headlight 49cc-150cc GY6 Engine ~ Chinese SCOOTER ATV 4169 The parts they’re about to break are expensive, difficult to install (requiring a dealer) and have to be waited for at weeks at a time. Which is exactly is exactly what I said up above. That’s what keeps the price of Chinese scooters down. He took his Honda Reflex to the dealer for a tire change. I rebuilt a Chinese scoot from the ground up using high end parts (better than OEM) If you’re mechanically inclined, you can do wonders with a Chinese machine, otherwise stick to brand names and warranty covered parts and labor. Not only that but they didn’t even have the skill to use the search function on the site to see the answers given to numerous other people just like them about how to fix it. Be prepared to lose some money on it. I have 25,000 miles combined on my three. A squirt of chain lube when I think of it. However, even with proper care there’s still a much higher possibility of pre-mature failure with china-scoots due to the inferior materials that the parts are made out of and the lack of quality control. Also, there is some sort of UK Chinese scooter forum on the internet that has plenty of information on how to repair these vehicles. Nuts that didn’t match. Taiwanese scooters are good, a perfect union of affordability and quality. Anyways, the issue being discussed here is this: China-scoots are junk. YouMotorcycle is for those who embrace motorcycling as a lifestyle. And, with the global market we have these days, if your local dealer goes under, there’s always a strong chance you can find replacement parts online. Also, riding on dual carriageways in severe crosswinds is a life-endangering experience. She loves it. 5) Who will work on it? You can make some repairs using a few common tools. Never went back to get paid for it. Is jump starting bad for your car? 16,000 on the CF Moto, 9,700 on the Bashan and 4,400 on the Bashan Cub clone. Guess how many problems I’ve had with my current Zuma? If you’re shopping for a scooter and reading this as part of your pre-purchase research, please save yourself the head ache and go get a brand new Yamaha or Honda. I’ve been around long enough to tell you this. Both of them are the top10 brands in Chinese domestic market. My long answer was a little less boring. 20k on 3 scooters? Before that, I owned a CPI Oliver City. Chinese scooters aren’t for those people. OEM part number QJ 4250362414908. The margin is very low on sale profitd. I like when people comment on this post, it gets Jim to come back and check out my site ;) Motorcycle and scooter brands can develop large stockpiles of parts, ready to ship to customers at a moment’s notice. 3) At this moment all Chinese scooters are the same inside and out. You completely disregard the amount of modification a Chinese scooter must go through to comply with North American standards including federal and state/provincial regulations. I actually ride it with the wife behind me. So you are bashing a scooter because you broke a key doing something you should never do, have a passenger on it while it's on its center stand, and because someone vandalized it while it was parked. He has over 45,000 miles on a Baccio GY6 and over 40,000 miles on an Automoto with a GY6 engine. The guy who recommended it to you might secretly hate you. How it managed to break during two weeks of inactivity is beyond me. I tried, very naively, to cycle there and back once, and it was horrible. I have a 2011 Roketa and yes I have 6136 miles on it But it has also been a part time job repairing this piece of crap!!!!! Details about Front Headlight 49cc-150cc GY6 Engine ~ Chinese SCOOTER ATV 4169 Be the first to write a review . I have the original fuel lines, vacuum lines and tire valves. My girlfriend was sitting on the seat while the scooter's stand was enabled and the key was in the storage compartment key slot on the side of the body. Jim, you’re attached to your opinion and there’s no room for anything else. Two of us. China 2 Wheels Mobility Easy Folding Electric Scooter with 350W Motor, Find details and Price about China Motorcycle, Electric Motorcycle from 2 Wheels Mobility Easy Folding Electric Scooter with 350W Motor - Alpmars Intelligent Technology(Suzhou)Co., Ltd. I bought a Honda Big Ruckus several years ago for a bargain price. Are Chinese scooters junk? Remember how I mentioned quality control? I heard an old saying… You get what you pay for. You want a cheap piece of crap? Let’s look at this comment: “My 2014 4-stroke Zuma is now at almost 28,000 miles. Interesting read. i run 42.000 km now. I probably qualify as the world's least technical man, so I contacted the dealer who assured me that the bike was perfectly safe to ride in such a condition. I ordered it on Tuesday and had it by Thursday, less than 48 hours later. Aside from being informative, this article was simply hilarious.Thanks :D. I suspect that many of the positive reviews you see for Chinese scooters, including those on forums, are written by sellers themselves. Companies like GS Motorworks have speced better quality scooters and it shows. I hate haggling. A new Honda PCX 150 is $3600, plus tax, plus freight, plus set up.A Chinese 150 even from a Lance dealer is $2400 plus the above. American auto manufacturers were on a roll in the 1960s. Scooters and motorcycles run the gamut from lightweight, fuel-sipping putt-putts to 200-hp pavement-ripping monsters, with a wide variety of styles and performance levels in … Glad you’ve had good experiences, lakhdar. At this time Chinese scooters are just not for everyone, You have to understand mechanical workings and be in touch with your scooter to own one. I do prefer the Italian bike but, for sure, I had a lot of fun riding the little Oliver City. So what we agree on is before we slam a brand or Manufacturing origin it might be important to look at the owners to determine if the product is to blame or the person using it. This is due to the fact that in order to sell scooters for the lowest possible price the online dealer has to operate in way that is … And we know that some china-scoots—depending on the manufacturer, brand, and dealer–are better than others. Still it's good to speed up and slow down and not ride at a constant throttle setting for long periods. When something is too good to be true, there’s usually someone waiting for you to turn around to call you a sucker. Compare that to the $52,000 GDP of the United States. 250CC CARBURETOR CARB GO KART QUAD ATV SCOOTER CONDITION: Brand New A replacement of carburetor for 250cc or under Chinese made GO-KARTs, ATVs, & SCOOTERs. I was happy to accept a number just to get rid of the thing. There is no middle man with Chinese scooters. Where can you get parts from now? It all boils down to what a person is looking for in a scooter, that’s all. In fact, sometimes we have to order parts directly from China, and this almost always upsets clients. Then I found out it had been in a flood and the engine and bearings had internal rust. Let me know how that works out. Occassionally will take it up to 40mph, Once I break it in and have had it longer I’ll have something more to contribute. They had issues. OK. let me explain my viewpoint. I also have in my collection a 2009 Honda Rebel, a 2006 Honda Rebel, a 1991 250 Honda Nighthawk and last, and certainly not least, a 1983, kick ass, 750 Kawasaki Spectre. myself. Btw, you can’t always blame china-scoot failure on user-error: Expecting a brand new scooter to crank up and ride without failing within the first few hundred miles isnt “abuse”, its reasonable expectation lol. They will remain part of the scene, but Chinese motorcycle brands will not dominate it. Time of year, low-ballers looking to get it for nothing or even just finding someone who wants it. How many belts? There is a local scooter shop that is offering 50cc scooters for under 700 dollars. Why? I don’t doubt your sincerity but I’m guessing your friends who had so much trouble with their China scooters weren’t in tune with their scooters and abused them. Because I rode a Lexmoto, I had to keep on searching. Sure, it was a Chinese Vespa knockoff, but it was a good-looking one. ” But the Like is one of few KYMCOs that are made in China.” Not, “hey, there are stupid owners everywhere”. I can just imagine what this marvelous Kymco would cost to repair at a dealer. All the rest is noise. April 21, 2014 I own one of these and the thing is amazing. Jim, I can taste the bitterness from here, man! People who buy used Japanese scooters can be falling into a quagmire depending on what the previous owner considered routine riding and maintenance. Why do I mention Vespasian? A GOOD RIDER can get many years, and have, of fun from Chinese scooters. The site remains fiercely independent, innovative, and unconventional. Yet somehow my three have close to 30,000 combined miles. Final cost for the repair? You detest this person, but for your own personal reasons you just have to live with them and you can’t tell them how much the sight of them makes you want to throw up all over the walls and smash their faces in a fit of rage? So please allow me to apologize in advance. I’ve never even had the valves adjusted on this thing (they probably need it though)! In China, most scooter brands do not actually make anything, but rather they order a bunch of engines from one factory, frames from another and pay a third factory to assemble it all and slap their badge on. All mysteriously capable of running and racking up big miles like the 300 mile round trip I did last week in one night on the Spectre, even though it’s 33 years old. Scooters, all scooters, are a pain in the neck. Chinese sccoters are cheap, and the manufacturers donot make enough spare parts for them!! Show me where I said a Chinese scooter is equal to a Honda? It’s why my 150 has almost 9,000 miles and the 250 has 10,500. Here’s my question? Scooter development continued in Europe and the United States between the World Wars. Well a lot of Chinese scooters come with strange quirks. Yes, if you buy a Chinese scooter, ride all day at WFO and never service it the thing will blow up. You know when you really dislike someone, but you don’t want to tell them that you really dislike someone? But buying one remains a dice-roll. so I knew what I was getting. The end result is that a lot of shops refuse to work on Chinese scooters. Thank you for being the most reasonable Japanese scooter owner I’ve talked to about this-ever. Way down, including the Japanese. Thanks. Yes, you would be wise to find a Japanese or Taiwanese scooter. But the Like is one of few KYMCOs that are made in China. Which scooter brands are the Best? Where’s any real information? Intake manifold leak diagnosis can be tricky but you can use a few simple techniques to diagnose the problem. Because they make them cheap so you have to keep buying parts for them, there by making a fortune on selling replacement parts!!! I paid £1,059 for the scooter, and the shop very kindly paid for the first tax disc and also threw in some L plates for me. This little 50cc Chinese bike (Yes, a scooter is a bike) lasted me twelve years. Then the exorbitant price you paid will be justified. 2008 Bashan Biella-8,000 miles There is a great difference between engine failure and parts coming seized and unmatching from factory. Please see product image to avoid any problems with your order. Experienced RV campers know what they need to do to find a great campsite when they travel. I almost want it to break down…lol. Buying and stocking parts is a major investment. On the scooter forums many people ask for advice having never worked on a scooter before and succeed. I’ve kept it all stock and do the routine maint. In addition as a poster above stated, the parts are completely universal (except for the fairings), Jim Zeiser . I wanted to stay employed with the company I was working for but their closest store was 15 miles away from me in Milton Keynes.I took a place at the Milton Keynes store and had to find a way to commute into work. Enquiries online and with shop owners revealed it was apparently reliable and popular. I bought a bms pallazo. It was making me really lazy (why walk when you can pootle? The Like is one of KYMCO’s made in China models. I see 1985 Honda 150s around Craigslist all the time for the price I paid for my 2009 CF Moto 250cc that has 12,000 trouble free miles on it. Try saying the same about a made in China brand of scooter. Not that after 200,000 miles of road riding I need it. Lol, c’mon man stop it! Also, I did buy it from a local dealer. Don’t listen to the Chinese scooter defenders here–trust me, the vast majority of China-scoot owners have nothing but problems, within days after buying one its not uncommon to find them on China-scoot internet forums posting something along the lines of “help, scoot won’t start” lol. Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters. And the only time that I’ve had it at the shop was for changing the flat-tire. Hey Jim, understood. I have. At least as far as two wheel transportation is concerned. Engines and electronics are modified, generally by the importer/distributor, and not always from factory. When you’re ready to write a review of your scooter for YouMotorcycle just let me know! I genuinely did like my scooter, and if I was rich and lazy, I would have kept it. What happens behind the scenes will shock you. Anyone recommending one of these things probably either hates you, has no idea what he’s talking about, or has just been lucky so far. Don't let trouble code P0171 or P0174 leave you without your ride and, worst of all, with an expensive repair bill later on. If you do buy a scooter from a Chinese manufacturer, be prepared for some trouble during things like my little key episode. Details about Venus Scooter 2 or 4 Stroke Floorboard 49.5cc - 50cc Chinese Scooter 2768 Be the first to write a review . I owned Japanese motorcycles back in the 60s and 70s. Silly me. A basic knowledge on the electronic fuel injection system eliminates the guesswork in the calibration of LPG-powered cars. Lol, get outta here man! 1) The Chinese use cheaper materials but guess what Honda uses cheaper parts than BMW. Buy. You can’t do that but want a Chinese scooter. You don’t know where the nearest dealerships are. If you do buy a scooter from a Chinese manufacturer, be prepared for some trouble during things like my little key episode. 8.28 seconds. I don’t, so I ride around on cheaper, reliable transportation. Repeat. Buy from another part of the world for a good scooter. As you can see in the photos, the bike I bought was garnished with an amount of chrome detailing. Your resume please. Many people purchasing RVs have no real camping experience, so RV campgrounds are being inundated with requests for their people to do things that are the RV owner's responsibility. If someone recommends this scooter to you then they hate you….pass. Find the perfect name for your new ride here. Engines dying could be any number of things, with improper use being most common. On this list I will give the top 5 best Chinese scooter brands which have brighter future and quality in the future or in 2013. I’m going to try and stay calm about this. These 200+ female and feminine car name ideas range from cute to sexy to badass to silly. ALL those tasks would require the less than ept to go to the $80 an hour shop. China Easy Operate Electric Mobility 1000W Foldable Electric Scooter for Adult, Find details and Price about China Motorcycle, Electric Motorcycle from Easy Operate Electric Mobility 1000W Foldable Electric Scooter for Adult - Alpmars Intelligent Technology(Suzhou)Co., Ltd. As I recall he spent close to $500 for two tires installed on his Kawasaki 1200 Voyager. See more ideas about chinese scooters, chinese, scooter. Dont buy Chinese ones. You see dealers don’t make money selling bikes, they make it fixing them. Love nor effort would convince the damn key to come out so for more than a month, which meant that I was stuck with an inaccessible boot compartment and only one key. Not everyone is as well off as most Japanese scooter owners. And there we have it. It’s not. ... an endorsement is not needed to register your motorcycle or scooter, but it is needed to legally drive it. All we can do is enjoy ours for many, many years to come. I would like to ask a few simple questions for this discussion. So, lets we check the top 5 best Chinese scooter motors 2013 below. But bad example I’m afraid my friend. This may or may not be true, but you can rest assured that the stuff coming from China, buy and large, is made on the quick and easy. Fuel pump and wiring recalls abound for Vespas. i ownedchineese quing qi you dont even wanna know da troublessss i had sold it for hundy was glad i got that for the piece of shit thats the bottom line dont be a fool and buy chinese they cheap for a reason, Your email address will not be published. All very easy to do. Of Course you can find replacement parts for Chinese scooters everywhere. A scooter or motor scooter has a step-through frame and a platform for the rider's feet. I changed jobs and my commute was reduced to just one mile rather than 15. The answer to all of this is that $3500 for a 150cc scooter is ridiculous. Never again. Whether or not you choose to take the chance, best of luck out there. Roketa Scooter Motor. I believe that the negative experiences I had were relatively isolated. Plus the point of this article isn’t what’s better. On the other hand the Chinese make more motor scooters for domestic use and export than all other scooter manufacturers combined. That has always been a problem for Chinese scooters. never let me down . Oh, one other thing. They are extremly popular because they are cheap, extremly reliable when treated right and very cheap to repair if they do break. A few nits here and there but it has always gotten me home. With step by step instructions this article will show you how. Call a couple dealers and ask about a few key parts that commonly fail and see what they come back with. You don't need a lot of money to start selling classic cars, you just need to buy the first car at a good price and then do it again. You’re also ignoring the fact that China’s GDP is only $6,700 per capita. Our goal is to showcase the best of the online motorcycle community, help new riders get into the sport, and inspire the world to get out on two. The problem has ALWAYS BEEN the importers here. Because most people buy scooters from Taiwan and China. I have a 2010 Kymco Like 50cc (MSRP $2200) in my garage now that I’ll fix-someday. This is because parts are easily accessible and cheap. You’re kidding right? I wish people with brand name scooters spoke about our bikes with less implication than we’re brain damaged for owning a CHEAP CHINESE POS. Try it! Weird. My own philosophy is that life’s too short and too precious to be risked on subpar motorcycles or scooters and the dangers and headaches associated with them. Perfectly fine machines. Someone on the Toronto Moto Scooter Club Message Board asked “Should I buy a 2013 Chironex?” and my short answer was No. How many roller changes? Where do you get parts years after the sale? BTW I spend my time riding not doing any wrenching. Prices and availability vary depending upon the city/state/region–what’s true for you isn’t the same for everybody else. Reasons to avoid -Shorter range than 365 Segway (creator of the infamous self-balancing 'personal transporter') was acquired by Chinese company Ninebot in 2015. Try putting a Kawasaki transmission shaft in a Honda. To be honest this article is pretty disappointing with its generalizations about chinese scooters. Since I'm lazy, slightly stingy and foolish, rather than take time out to hunt down an expensive Japanese second-hand bike I simply bought a brand new Chinese-manufactured scooter, a Lexmoto Valencia 125cc. Discount scooter brands like Q-Link, Flyscooters, Lance, TNG, and even Schwinn (a name you’ve probably heard before) are scooter brands built in China and distributed only by local dealers (you can't buy these China scooter brands online and have the scooter shipped to you). Think D.O.T., E.P.A., Transport Canada. I have completed 5 trips to Danbury, CT and back at 300 miles per in the last month and a half, at highway speeds, successfully. Etc. BUT…..people who don’t know what “limits” are should stay away from Chinese and save their pennies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLjSkjiliA, Yes, Way too many of these. http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic130381.2. Found this article while researching scooters from all makes. They copy, usually with no regard for copyright laws, patent infringement and the like. Someone did a video with 18,000 miles on hers and still running strong. RV owners need to learn how to perform their own site maintenance. Large part suppliers regularly carry parts for Hondas, Yamahas, Vespas, and other big named brands like Suzuki, but Chinese parts are not so readily available. The numerous people who write “My scooter won’t start” on forums have little to no mechanical background and haven’t even begun to investigate. All other areas were mercifully untouched by the rain. Gone. $660. Bolts that were stripped from factory. on the CF Moto. I know my scooter seems to like to keep the engine speed around 5000rpm if it can. The Chinese approach is different. Elements of scooter design were present in some of the earliest motorcycles, and scooters have been made since at least 1914. I don’t run it all out because I’m trying to break it in. My 2014 4-stroke Zuma is now at almost 28,000 miles. Not too fast to scare her and she’s already stopped trying to squeeze me to death holding on…lol. Nevermind that the Like 50 is assembled in China from many Taiwanese parts, NO, it’s BUILT in China so it ran its oil tank dry and blew the motor. Here are eight simple tips to help give tires more traction in the snow. My BMS 260 scooter is a blast to ride. You and I are probably in agreement that Vespa’s are waaay over-rated and over-priced. And yet, all brands will agree on one thing – you should really avoid riding your scooter in rain or wet environments. Sam Knight, I enjoyed your article. How about a $4800 Vespa 150? I have all of $3000 invested in my three. $200 with labor. If Chinese is so bad how is he doing it? You can deny it, you can make excuses for them, you can deflect by drawing attention to broken down vespas, or whatever..but we both know that China-scoots are inferior to the japanese brands because everything from the metals used in the engines to the hoses to the tires to the elec wires to the plastics in a China-scoot are of inferior quality. Hate to burst you’re Chinese is OK if you fix them bubble but I’ve got 29k on my one Sym Citicom and it’s till going strong and will be when those cheap ass things you call a scooter are in the junkyard pal. Only issue I’ve had is a little clutch glaze that keeps building up. Need to prove your point about mechanics not working on the scooters? Once a week if we have something really awesome to share, we reach out to riders and let them know. Any fiddling I had to do on it would be the same for a Honda Helix, THE best scooter ever built according to their owners and I can’t get through a season without performing Routine Maintenance. Don’t blame the Chinese for a bad, overpriced model like the Like 50. Where’s the beef? I’ve been almost as lucky with my $1200 Bashan. And that’s where my bitterness/fatigue comes from. If you are getting roasted on forums for saying you ride a Chinese bike you deserve it, you don't ride a bike (motorbike) at all you ride a scooter. Me, I’ve owned 2 Japanese scoots, the latest being a Zuma 50F with over 21,000 miles on it. You’re also stating that “there’s always a strong chance you can find replacement parts online” as if this is a bragging point. Better yet they’re out there for $800-shipped. Lets see, three Chinese bikes, almost 20,000 miles together. You gonna try to tell me that a Roketa will out-last my Yamaha?
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